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Nick H's avatar

This is great. I could spend a lot of time just looking at this data and seeing what pops out. Looking at Elway for example, for his first several seasons it's almost like his estimated CPOE is negatively correlated with team success. The first season he had a positive CPOE was by far the worst record the Broncos had during his career. (Speaking of his career, that -8.4 his rookie season was a really deep hole to climb out of.) Obviously there's a lot more to a team than just good QB play, but I find that really interesting. Was Elway forced to throw better because his team was losing?

I'm going to have to think some more about whether I agree that CPOE and sack rate are sufficient to define a QB's tangible skills. One aspect I'll push back on a bit is the suggestion that receiver quality is the explanation for why a QB wouldn't see good YAC on his throws. That's part of it, but the QB decision making process is a factor too. Take Wilson for example. He often chose to throw (accurately) into situations where the receiver had no opportunity to get additional yards, where if he had thrown the ball sooner or to a different receiver the YAC would have been there. It's also a matter of where on the field Wilson would choose to throw. He rarely targeted receivers over the middle where they could make a move. He'd hit them on the sidelines where they could be forced out of bounds.

Anyway, this is excellent work. I'm sure a lot of people will find this incredibly useful.

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Marc Robinson's avatar

Warren Moon has one of the lesser known great peaks. From 89-92, he had projected CPOE of 4.1, a Sack%+ of 113, and a NY/A of 116. He also claims back to back number 1 slots on your QB tiers. His only weakness was fumbling (0.81 fumbles per game).

It is fitting to see Stafford and Eli both at -1.3 career CPOE. Page 9 is my favorite. Andrew Luck has the same CPOE as Mitch Trubisky, and CJ Stroud is in between Justin Fields and Alex Smith. Imagine people trying to rationalize that.

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